Comments on: Plus-Size Princess http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/ Musings of a Rubens Woman Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:58:58 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: silver surfer http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-2371 silver surfer Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:58:37 +0000 http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-2371 i think this blog is a little overreacted, you know i dont really think its bad to make a fairy tale that has a king size princes in it saved by a gorgeous prince on a white horse yet i dont think that you should be desilusioned by the fact that there isnt one.... really im a guy, and i dont think im the prettiest on earth, but i have agreed with who i am and what i look like. im not handsome and yet there is this girl who is in love with me who is, in my opinion, a very pretty girl.... and that happened to me even though there aren't any fairy tales disney made with an ugly dude getting to marry a pretty girl or anything like that. maybe its because im a guy or something that i cant quite seem to grasp what the problem is here but i just dont think there is one.... if you can accept who you are then others wil do too, fat women who can only talk about their problems of being fat aren't atractive, but an image of someone can really change when the person turns out to be jolly or just really fun to hang out with, as i have personally experienced. then someone can see through the outside and see how you really are. all i have to say is, just dont make such a big deal out of it. the less you worry about it, the less others wil too. greetz from a friendly web surfer i think this blog is a little overreacted, you know i dont really think its bad to make a fairy tale that has a king size princes in it saved by a gorgeous prince on a white horse yet i dont think that you should be desilusioned by the fact that there isnt one….

really im a guy, and i dont think im the prettiest on earth, but i have agreed with who i am and what i look like. im not handsome and yet there is this girl who is in love with me who is, in my opinion, a very pretty girl…. and that happened to me even though there aren’t any fairy tales disney made with an ugly dude getting to marry a pretty girl or anything like that.

maybe its because im a guy or something that i cant quite seem to grasp what the problem is here but i just dont think there is one…. if you can accept who you are then others wil do too, fat women who can only talk about their problems of being fat aren’t atractive, but an image of someone can really change when the person turns out to be jolly or just really fun to hang out with, as i have personally experienced. then someone can see through the outside and see how you really are.

all i have to say is, just dont make such a big deal out of it. the less you worry about it, the less others wil too.

greetz from a friendly web surfer

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]]> By: Maya http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-2139 Maya Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:28:37 +0000 http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-2139 Hey, this is my second time posting on this blog and I've gotta say it has been voicing many of my suspicions and theories and concerns about Disney and princess media since I was 12. My parents never really raised me to look out for it, I just started to and I really think that it's about time fat girls got a representative in the media who's fat and human, not evil, actually goes on an adventure (rather than doing what Fiona did in the rather disappointing 3rd movies, staying at home and talking to the girls, not even trying to get her rightful spot as Queen and leaving the decision to Shrek, although she did get a good fight scene at the end. I think a great way of teaching your kids that body type doesn't matter is if you don't refer to it as "some people are chubby but they're pretty too" I think you should say "Some people are skinny but they're pretty too" lol just a theory because it makes it seem like fat people are the "us" and skinny people are the "them" it could help quite a bit. Hey, this is my second time posting on this blog and I’ve gotta say it has been voicing many of my suspicions and theories and concerns about Disney and princess media since I was 12. My parents never really raised me to look out for it, I just started to and I really think that it’s about time fat girls got a representative in the media who’s fat and human, not evil, actually goes on an adventure (rather than doing what Fiona did in the rather disappointing 3rd movies, staying at home and talking to the girls, not even trying to get her rightful spot as Queen and leaving the decision to Shrek, although she did get a good fight scene at the end. I think a great way of teaching your kids that body type doesn’t matter is if you don’t refer to it as “some people are chubby but they’re pretty too” I think you should say “Some people are skinny but they’re pretty too” lol just a theory because it makes it seem like fat people are the “us” and skinny people are the “them” it could help quite a bit.

]]> By: Eve http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-781 Eve Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:36:45 +0000 http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-781 This is a great discussion! I know when Shrek first came out, I was really angry that I couldn't find a Fiona action figure in her ogre state--only the thin (and not nearly as cute, in my opinion) Fiona. As the mom of a four year-old girl, I'm trying to help her understand that real beauty comes from inside (not easy, when every prince in a fairy tale falls in love with the princess because she's so pretty). She doesn't quite get the implications of Shrek, but she knows that some people are "puffy" (as she calls it), including her mom, and that it doesn't matter--bodies come in all shapes and sizes. The good news is that there's lot of conversation happening around this whole topic. I'm also the moderator on a new site http://www.webelieveingirls.com that's a place for concerned adults to talk about body image and other issues that face young girls, like media impact, clothing and make-up, values, etc. It’s sponsored by Mattel under the Barbie brand (yes, that Barbie), and they’re truly interested in hearing all the different points of view. I would absolutely love to see this conversation continued in the context of young girls and hope you'll come check it out and say what you think. This is a great discussion! I know when Shrek first came out, I was really angry that I couldn’t find a Fiona action figure in her ogre state–only the thin (and not nearly as cute, in my opinion) Fiona. As the mom of a four year-old girl, I’m trying to help her understand that real beauty comes from inside (not easy, when every prince in a fairy tale falls in love with the princess because she’s so pretty). She doesn’t quite get the implications of Shrek, but she knows that some people are “puffy” (as she calls it), including her mom, and that it doesn’t matter–bodies come in all shapes and sizes. The good news is that there’s lot of conversation happening around this whole topic. I’m also the moderator on a new site http://www.webelieveingirls.com that’s a place for concerned adults to talk about body image and other issues that face young girls, like media impact, clothing and make-up, values, etc. It’s sponsored by Mattel under the Barbie brand (yes, that Barbie), and they’re truly interested in hearing all the different points of view. I would absolutely love to see this conversation continued in the context of young girls and hope you’ll come check it out and say what you think.

]]> By: someone http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-722 someone Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:57:05 +0000 http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-722 Cute blog. Fiona is actually one of my favorite princesses. I think she's beautiful as an ogre and human, and has a much different personality than most princesses. I agree. It bothers me that in Shrek 2, they decide to remain as ogres. I understand the "accept yourself" message, but if they have the opportunity to be better accepted, and much better looking, why don't they take it? Cute blog. Fiona is actually one of my favorite princesses. I think she’s beautiful as an ogre and human, and has a much different personality than most princesses.
I agree. It bothers me that in Shrek 2, they decide to remain as ogres. I understand the “accept yourself” message, but if they have the opportunity to be better accepted, and much better looking, why don’t they take it?

]]> By: Susan Johnston http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-666 Susan Johnston Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:35:12 +0000 http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-666 We wanted our princess, Princess Bubble, to represent real women; so we ask our artist to make her flatter with hips. Don't get me wrong she is still beautiful, but aren't real women? We wanted our princess, Princess Bubble, to represent real women; so we ask our artist to make her flatter with hips. Don’t get me wrong she is still beautiful, but aren’t real women?

]]> By: more cowbell http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-427 more cowbell Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:38:06 +0000 http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-427 Hey great post. I agree with all of that, and have had similar thoughts on the Fiona deal. The one thing that did impress me was that they had a choice to remain ogrely and fat, or beautiful and human. It impressed me because as a fat-again female, I know damn well which side of the magic fence my ass would've chosen -- the thin beautiful human side. In a heartbeat. Says something, eh? So, I liked the message that they chose that, and were FINE with being themselves. Prefered it! That's great. However -- dig more deeply into that choice, and Ifind myself wondering: ok, yes they showed them making the choice to remain heavy and green, flying in the face of what society said they should do. But was the ogreness the only way being heavy could be acceptable? Goes back to what you're saying; it wouldn't be "OK" as a human, only as an ogre. Great post. (I just wrote a post about S3 regarding how no one seems to be bothered by the fact that FIONA should've been heir to the friggin' throne, but had to do the barefoot and pregnant deal while her husband -- the male -- cut into the line of royal succession.) Hey great post. I agree with all of that, and have had similar thoughts on the Fiona deal. The one thing that did impress me was that they had a choice to remain ogrely and fat, or beautiful and human. It impressed me because as a fat-again female, I know damn well which side of the magic fence my ass would’ve chosen — the thin beautiful human side. In a heartbeat. Says something, eh? So, I liked the message that they chose that, and were FINE with being themselves. Prefered it! That’s great. However — dig more deeply into that choice, and Ifind myself wondering: ok, yes they showed them making the choice to remain heavy and green, flying in the face of what society said they should do. But was the ogreness the only way being heavy could be acceptable? Goes back to what you’re saying; it wouldn’t be “OK” as a human, only as an ogre. Great post.

(I just wrote a post about S3 regarding how no one seems to be bothered by the fact that FIONA should’ve been heir to the friggin’ throne, but had to do the barefoot and pregnant deal while her husband — the male — cut into the line of royal succession.)

]]> By: Mrs. Owl http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-267 Mrs. Owl Wed, 30 May 2007 22:20:01 +0000 http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-267 I love Princess Fiona! I actually think she's a beautiful, kickass woman, ogre or not. I'm a size 16/18 and my costume for this Halloween? Princess Fiona! And I will wear it loud and proud! I love Princess Fiona! I actually think she’s a beautiful, kickass woman, ogre or not. I’m a size 16/18 and my costume for this Halloween? Princess Fiona! And I will wear it loud and proud!

]]> By: Megan http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-160 Megan Mon, 21 May 2007 19:44:32 +0000 http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-160 I just wanted you to see that the second Fiona doll is actually pretty cute when she's in good condition: [IMG]http://i5.tinypic.com/61owiz4.jpg[/IMG] I just wanted you to see that the second Fiona doll is actually pretty cute when she’s in good condition:
[IMG]http://i5.tinypic.com/61owiz4.jpg[/IMG]

]]> By: Andrea http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-119 Andrea Fri, 18 May 2007 18:12:42 +0000 http://curvature.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/plus-size-princess/#comment-119 I'm a first time reader at this blog, (but definitely putting it into my regular cycle of links!) and I love everything I've read thus far... long, somewhat gushy comment ahead. :o) I definitely relate... my husband and I watched Shrek 2 last week (gearing up for this weekend), and I found myself wondering why, at the end of the film, Fiona would choose to go back to her ogre form. I mean... if I'd drunk some magic potion that made me svelte and "pretty", would I really go back? That thought scared the crap out of me; it was a reminder of how much I struggle with my own size 18 self. I agree with everything you've said here -- on one hand, part of me loves both Fiona and Ursula; they're both awesome. On the other, it would be nice to have a fat female character who was, you know, human and not reviled by other characters around her. Great post, great blog. See ya around. I’m a first time reader at this blog, (but definitely putting it into my regular cycle of links!) and I love everything I’ve read thus far… long, somewhat gushy comment ahead. :o )

I definitely relate… my husband and I watched Shrek 2 last week (gearing up for this weekend), and I found myself wondering why, at the end of the film, Fiona would choose to go back to her ogre form. I mean… if I’d drunk some magic potion that made me svelte and “pretty”, would I really go back?

That thought scared the crap out of me; it was a reminder of how much I struggle with my own size 18 self. I agree with everything you’ve said here — on one hand, part of me loves both Fiona and Ursula; they’re both awesome. On the other, it would be nice to have a fat female character who was, you know, human and not reviled by other characters around her.

Great post, great blog. See ya around.

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